tournament shit we had a general agreement that for our tournament we should have limits on pokemon, these tiers are done by stats and other shit and we basically think you should just have 1 tier 1, and the rest is fair game, itd be real annoying cause if someone wanted to win theyd just make a tier1 lineup so
TIER 1: Uber
Deoxys
Deoxys-fr
Deoxys-lg
Deoxys-e
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias
Latios
Lugia
Mew
Mewtwo
Rayquaza
Wobbuffet
TIER 2: Very OU
Blissey
Celebi
Heracross
Jirachi
Metagross
Salamence
Skarmory
Snorlax
Suicune
Swampert
Tyranitar
Zapdos
TIER 3: OU
Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Donphan
Dugtrio
Dusclops
Gengar
Gyarados
Jolteon
Magneton
Medicham
Milotic
Raikou
Sceptile
Slaking
Starmie
Weezing
TIER 4: Semi-OU
Articuno
Blaziken
Breloom
Claydol
Dragonite
Flygon
Gardevoir
Machamp
Miltank
Ninjask
Moltres
Regice
Regirock
Rhydon
Steelix
Tauros
Umbreon
Vaporeon
Venusaur
TIER 5: Borderline
Arcanine
Armaldo
Charizard
Cloyster
Cradily
Crobat
Dodrio
Entei
Espeon
Exeggutor
Forretress
Hariyama
Houndoom
Jumpluff
Jynx
Kingdra
Lapras
Ludicolo
Marowak
Muk
Porygon2
Registeel
Scizor
Slowbro
Smeargle
Swellow
Tentacruel
Typhlosion
Ursaring
Zangoose
TIER 6: Good Underused
Absol
Aggron
Ampharos
Banette
Blastoise
Camerupt
Clefable
Electabuzz
Fearow
Gligar
Golduck
Golem
Gorebyss
Granbull
Grumpig
Hitmonlee
Hypno
Kangaskhan
Lanturn
Linoone
Lunatone
Manectric
Meganium
Mr. Mime
Nidoking
Omastar
Piloswine
Pinsir
Poliwrath
Primeape
Quagsire
Sandslash
Scyther
Sharpedo
Shedinja
Solrock
Vileplume
TIER 7: Underused
Altaria
Azumarill
Cacturne
Dunsparce
Exploud
Feraligatr
Flareon
Girafarig
Hitmontop
Huntail
Kabutops
Magmar
Misdreavus
Muk
Nidoqueen
Octillery
Persian
Qwilfish
Raichu
Sableye
Shiftry
Slowking
Victreebel
Xatu
Walrein
Yanma
TIER 8: Lesser UU
Arbok
Electrode
Kecleon
Kingler
Mantine
Ninetales
Politoed
Rapidash
Seviper
Stantler
Wigglytuff
TIER 9: NU
Ariados
Bellossom
Castform
Chimecho
Crawdaunt
Dewgong
Farfetch'd
Furret
Glalie
Hitmonchan
Lickitung
Mawile
Murkrow
Noctowl
Nosepass
Parasect
Minun
Raticate
Pidgeot
Relicanth
Pelipper
Plusle
Seaking
Shuckle
Sneasel
Sudowoodo
Sunflora
Swalot
Tangela
Torkoal
Tropius
Venomoth
Volbeat
Wailord
Whiscash
TIER 10: Lesser NU
Aipom
Beautifly
Beedrill
Butterfree
Corsola
Delcatty
Delibird
Dustox
Illumise
Ledian
Magcargo
Masquerain
Mightyena
Roselia
Spinda
Togetic
TIER 11: ...
Ditto
Luvdisc
Unown
Chozo- 04-25-2007
The big problem is that, since it's a brave new world, the tiers aren't set in stone. I mean, realistically the only reason Wobby was banned in Advance generation is mostly because two Wobbies with leftovers that got sent out at the same time would result in a game lasting forever (since the struggle damage and recoil would be less than what Leftovers heals). In D/P Shadow Tag got changed so that two Pokemon with Shadow Tag can switch out on each other, there's an item (Shed Skin) that'll let you switch out regardless of Mean Look/Shadow Tag/Arena Trap/et al, there are tons of new attacks that are super effective against Wobby, and Spiritomb shuts Wobbufett down completely.
Not only that, but if you allow one uber per team it basically comes down to whose side loses their uber first, which is kinda meh.
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